Electric Fences & Birds
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:57:58 -0400
From: "Seward, Elizabeth D." Elizabeth.D.Seward2"at"usdoj.gov
To: "'bluebird-L"at"cornell.edu'" bluebird-L"at"cornell.edu
Subject: Inquiry re electrified fences, and how to help single female cardinal
feed her nestlings
To the list for comment,
I am sorry to report that a beautiful male Northern Cardinal (NOCA) got
zapped by our electrified fence last Sunday morning. Apparently, he landed on
the wire prior to 5:30 a.m. (when the electricity was turned off) and his tail
must have touched a metal screw on a nearby insulator. His female partner is now
attempting to raise at least two nestlings by herself. What is the likelihood
that the nestlings will survive with just one parent attending to their needs?
Is there anything we could do to help her?
Regarding electrified fences, has anyone else had bluebird or other songbird
fatalities from such a fence? This is the third year we have put ours up. It is
an absolute necessity; otherwise the deer would devour our tomato shoots, potato
greens, peppers, and so forth. The fence comes on at 9 pm, which is after the
last birds have settled in for the night, and we thought it was safe to turn it
off as late as 5:30 am, about 15 minutes before I have seen the first birds
flying about and a half hour before sunrise. But I am told that NOCA typically
fly in low light conditions, so we have adjusted the fence to turn off at 4:30,
well before dawn, at first grey light. (And we're putting plastic caps on the
metal screws holding the insulators in place.)
Diane Seward
Potomac, MD
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:05:01 -0500
From: Kathleen Oschwald nestbox"at"1starnet.com
To: Elizabeth.D.Seward2"at"usdoj.gov
Cc: Bluebird-L"at"cornell.edu
Subject: Re: Electrified fences
At 01:57 PM 7/18/01 -0400, you wrote:
To the list for comment,
Regarding electrified fences, has anyone else had bluebird or other songbird
fatalities from such a fence? This is the third year we have put ours up. It is
an absolute necessity; otherwise the deer would devour our tomato shoots, potato
greens, peppers, and so forth. The fence comes on at 9 pm, which is after the
last birds have settled in for the night, and we thought it was safe to turn it
off as late as 5:30 am, about 15 minutes before I have seen the first birds
flying about and a half hour before sunrise. But I am told that NOCA typically
fly in low light conditions, so we have adjusted the fence to turn off at 4:30,
well before dawn, at first grey light. (And we're putting plastic caps on the
metal screws holding the insulators in place.)
Diane Seward
Potomac, MD
For a long time, the ONLY fence containing my horses was electrified, and my
cross-fencing is still electrified -- plastic electrified tape on top (with tiny
wires to conduct current) and three high-tensile wires, two of which are also
"hot", with the other tied to ground.
I use a high voltage, low amperage charger, which pulses. It is "hot" enough
that the horses never touch it a second time, and I know ranchers that keep
cattle contained with this system. Yet because of the pulse and the low
amperage, horses, cows, dogs and humans (including yours truly) which touch it
briefly are not harmed. I have used this fencing for over 10 years, and so far
the only bird fatality I ever had was a cattle egret that tried to go under the
bottom (hot) wire. Many critters trying to duck through the fence have been
successful between pulses, but this one was unlucky.
The posts on the perimeter fence are ironwood (a self insulating wood from
Australia). I also use a two-tape temporary system (if you consider 6 years
temporary!) on metal T-posts. However, in this case all the insulators are
plastic and snap on to the posts. In theory a bird could be sitting on the tape
(which they do) and lean over somehow to touch the metal post, but this has
never happened that I'm aware of. In fact my most productive bluebird nestbox is
in the corner of the barnyard area, about 2 feet from the wire on 2 sides, and I
consider it an excellent protection from such things as cats and racoons. The
birds sit on the 5x5 wooden corner post and watch over their nestbox, or smack
the insects around before bringing them to the babies. I have also observed
birds sitting on top of the plastic cap on the top of the T-posts or on the tape
itself.
Part of my luck may stem from the lack of metal components on my insulators.
There are a lot of snap-on plastic insulators, and there are also fiberglass
step-in poles which might work well around a garden. I have used them as well
for true temporary fencing for the horses and they usually have multiple
slots/grooves for a variety of wire/tape positions. You might also consider the
plastic insulators with stick well out from the posts, so a bird sitting on the
wire would be unlikely to contact the post.
Hope this helps.
Kate Oschwald
Paris, TX
100 mi NE of Dallas
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:34:39 -0500
From: "Bill Darnell" bdarnel3"at"bellsouth.net
To: Elizabeth.D.Seward2"at"usdoj.gov, bluebird-L"at"cornell.edu
Subject: Re: Inquiry re electrified fences, and how to help single female
cardinal feed her nestlings
I had a Carolina Wren electrocuted on my fence last summer. A neighbor had an
electric fence alongside a small stream and that killed more than one Great Blue
Heron before he moved it.
Bill
TN
To the list for comment,
I am sorry to report that a beautiful male Northern Cardinal (NOCA) got zapped
by our electrified fence last Sunday morning. Apparently, he landed on the wire
prior to 5:30 a.m. (when the electricity was turned off) and his tail must have
touched a metal screw on a nearby insulator. His female partner is now
attempting to raise at least two nestlings by herself. What is the likelihood
that the nestlings will survive with just one parent attending to their needs?
Is there anything we could do to help her?
Regarding electrified fences, has anyone else had bluebird or other songbird
fatalities from such a fence? This is the third year we have put ours up. It is
an absolute necessity; otherwise the deer would devour our tomato shoots, potato
greens, peppers, and so forth. The fence comes on at 9 pm, which is after the
last birds have settled in for the night, and we thought it was safe to turn it
off as late as 5:30 am, about 15 minutes before I have seen the first birds
flying about and a half hour before sunrise. But I am told that NOCA typically
fly in low light conditions, so we have adjusted the fence to turn off at 4:30,
well before dawn, at first grey light. (And we're putting plastic caps on the
metal screws holding the insulators in place.)
Diane Seward
Potomac, MD
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:08:43 EDT
From: "Rwatts" rwatts"at"mymailstation.com
To: bluebird-l"at"cornell.edu
Subject: Re:Inquiry re electrified fences, and how to help single fem
Regarding electrified fences, has anyone else had bluebird or other songbird
fatalities from such a fence?
The majority of my fencing is electrified--plastic tape with wires. However,
the tape runs through posts which are either plastic, fiberglass, or
plastic-coated on top. A bird would have a real stretch to reach both wire/tape
and metal. I do have some stretches along stone walls, in fairly dense tree
cover and/or brush, where the plastic insulators are nailed into wooden posts or
trees-- conceivably a bird might touch both wire and nail, but unlikely since
that's not a favored perching area.
Our bluebirds use the electric fence posts very commonly; occasionally the
wire/tape too. I've also seen robins, assorted sparrows (never can tell them
apart at a distance), goldfinches, phoebes...
Rhonda Watts
Wilton, N.H.
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:17:54 -0700
From: Sherry Linn goldstrm"at"vip.net
To: "BLUEBIRD-L"at"cornell.edu" BLUEBIRD-L"at"cornell.edu
Subject: Multiple nestings - Electric fences - Misc...
Okay - so I sat on the fence and "watched" and now have decided to once again
jump into the fray...
Sherry here in Osoyoos, BC about 3 miles north of the border with Washington
State
Our Western and Mountain Blues have 2 nestings a year on a regular basis.
Often if they get an early spring start 3 is quite possible. So far mine are on
their second nesting. Like some of you, I have 2 pairs that use one box for the
first nesting then use the paired box for the second or move to another nestbox
close by. This has also happened on our TBT at the Desert Centre this year. I
have 5 Western babies right now in the nestbox off the patio. Had 3 children
here today from Quebec who were absolutely thrilled to hold a baby bluebird in
their hands. Life is a wonderful experience if you keep your mind open and plan
to learn at least one new thing every day.... enjoying this with the children
made my day.
I have an electirc fence around my beeyard just about 150 feet from the
house. I have never had a bird eletrocuted nor seen any lying on the ground
around the perimeter. The fence is to keep out the bears and it has been
effective.
I also have a large variety of birds of prey - golden and bald eagles,
kestrels, 4 owl species, and numerous hawk species. I have not seen them take a
small bird during the nesting season. I have them around on a regular basis
throughout the winter when they feed on California Quail quite often. In the
fall I have had the small raptors take a few songbirds - finches or sparrow
varieties (I do not have house sparrows). The predator I have to watch for -
snakes.
Keep up the posts and hello to all I met in Ohio....it was fun at the NABS
conference and I hope we'll see you here next year!
Sherry Linn
Southern Interior Bluebird Trail Society
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